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		<title>Iraq Cost-Benefit Analysis and Net Present Value: The Only Reason to Be For or Against Continuing the War</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 09:45:04 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>bkdunn</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#8217;ve been watching the PBS]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been watching the PBS series <em>Carrier</em>, which follows the USS <em>Nimitz</em> through a Persian Gulf deployment in 2005 (note: this post was written a while back). One of the things that&#8217;s most striking is how the crew splits up in terms of their views on the war. Also striking is how neither side&#8217;s opinion is based on the only thing that matters: whether the benefit of the war is worth the cost. Unsurprisingly, their opinion bases seem to echo everything that&#8217;s heard among people with mouths who aren&#8217;t in the military.</p>
<p>Stated Reasons for Continuing the War:</p>
<ul>
<li>Because &#8220;The Surge&#8221; is working. (Seriously, this was presented as an actual reason to continue the war in a Wall Street Journal <a href="http://online.wsj.com/article/SB120787343563306609.html?mod=opinion_main_commentaries">opinion article</a>.)</li>
<li>In order to spread democracy to Iraq. (So how come we&#8217;re not invading Russia and spreading democracy there? Oh, right, because they&#8217;re already democratic &#8212; sort of like the German Democratic Republic was, I guess.)</li>
<li>Because of 9/11. (?)</li>
<li>To stop the terrorists.</li>
<li>To establish a strong relationship with another oil-rich nation.</li>
</ul>
<p>Stated reasons for ending the war:</p>
<ul>
<li>Because it&#8217;s an imperialist, racist war.</li>
<li>Because too many Americans and Iraqi civilians have died.</li>
<li>Blood-for-oil is wrong.</li>
<li>Because we&#8217;re just encouraging the terrorists and ruining our international reputation.</li>
<li>Because it&#8217;s illegal.</li>
</ul>
<p>The problem with all of these reasons is that none of them get down to the details that matter. Instead, they&#8217;re all just bumper sticker-quality sound bites that seem to serve only to unite the masses within their respective teams. Ugh: humanity. It&#8217;s not about your team, it&#8217;s about good decision-making.</p>
<p>The only valid reason for continuing the war in Iraq is the belief that, from this point forward, the benefit to waging the war outweighs its cost. The only valid reason for pulling out of Iraq is the belief that, from this point forward, the cost of waging the war outweighs the benefit. While many of the above reasons hint at benefits and costs, none of them glance at the other side of the balance or are considered to the point of actually understanding the details from which to derive an actual value. If we&#8217;re going to argue mindlessly with opinions rooted only in our environmental and cultural biases, at least we could argue to those specifications.</p>
<p>Or, better yet, we could seek rational figures and probabilities that would help us determine the best course of action. It&#8217;s not hard to reduce the value of the Iraq war from this point forward to a mathematical equation in order to weigh the benefit against the cost: it&#8217;s just a <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Net_present_value">net present value</a> (NPV) evaluation. All we need to do is understand and quantify the costs (from this point forward) and then understand and quantify the benefits (form this point forward).</p>
<p>&#8220;From this point forward&#8221; because everything that&#8217;s already happened is a sunk cost and can&#8217;t be changed at this point.</p>
<p>Post over.</p>
<p>bkd</p>
<p>(Re-read this after doing the thing about posts I hadn&#8217;t posted yet and there-during impressed myself. It&#8217;s still relevant enough, I guess &#8212; and there&#8217;s always Afghanistan.)</p>
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		<title>US War Deaths per Day by Conflict (War, Battle) and How Iraq Compares</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Mar 2008 17:44:07 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>bkdunn</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[These should be in order]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p align="left">These should be in order chronologically and it&#8217;s admittedly a little weighted toward the Pacific Theater of World War II. In case you don&#8217;t want to read to the bottom, Iraq: 3,973 deaths in 1,806 days, 2.2 deaths/day.</p>
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<td align="center"><strong>Event</strong></td>
<td align="center"><strong>US Deaths</strong></td>
<td align="center"><strong>Duration</strong></td>
<td align="center"><strong>Deaths/Day</strong></td>
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<td bgcolor="#ffffff">Lexington &amp; Concord (Revolution)</td>
<td bgcolor="#ffffff">50</td>
<td bgcolor="#ffffff">1 day</td>
<td bgcolor="#ffffff">50.0</td>
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<td colspan="4" bgcolor="#eeeeee">Estimated death count (US only).</td>
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<td bgcolor="#ffffff">Battle of Saratoga (Revolution)</td>
<td bgcolor="#ffffff">800</td>
<td bgcolor="#ffffff">2 days</td>
<td bgcolor="#ffffff">400.0</td>
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<td colspan="4" bgcolor="#eeeeee">Estimated death count (US only, obviously).</td>
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<td bgcolor="#ffffff">Battle of New Orleans (1812)</td>
<td bgcolor="#ffffff">37</td>
<td bgcolor="#ffffff">2 days</td>
<td bgcolor="#ffffff">18.5</td>
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<td colspan="4" bgcolor="#eeeeee">Includes deaths on both sides (Union and Confederate).</td>
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<td bgcolor="#ffffff">Mexican-American War</td>
<td bgcolor="#ffffff">1,733</td>
<td bgcolor="#ffffff">730 days</td>
<td bgcolor="#ffffff">2.4</td>
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<td colspan="4" bgcolor="#eeeeee">Wikipedia doesn&#8217;t have such a good read on this one. Deaths include only killed-in-action combattants on the US side.</td>
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<td bgcolor="#ffffff">Bull Run/Manassas I (Civil)</td>
<td bgcolor="#ffffff">847</td>
<td bgcolor="#ffffff">1 day</td>
<td bgcolor="#ffffff">847.0</td>
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<td colspan="4" bgcolor="#eeeeee">Includes deaths on both sides (Union and Confederate).</td>
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<td bgcolor="#ffffff">Battle of Shiloh (Civil)</td>
<td bgcolor="#ffffff">3,482</td>
<td bgcolor="#ffffff">2 days</td>
<td bgcolor="#ffffff">1,741.0</td>
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<td colspan="4" bgcolor="#eeeeee">Includes deaths on both sides (Union and Confederate).</td>
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<td bgcolor="#ffffff">Bull Run/Manassas II (Civil)</td>
<td bgcolor="#ffffff">3,000</td>
<td bgcolor="#ffffff">3 days</td>
<td bgcolor="#ffffff">1,000.0</td>
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<td colspan="4" bgcolor="#eeeeee">Includes deaths on both sides (Union and Confederate). Death total is estimated.</td>
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<td bgcolor="#ffffff">Antietam/Sharpsburg (Civil)</td>
<td bgcolor="#ffffff">3,654</td>
<td bgcolor="#ffffff">1 days</td>
<td bgcolor="#ffffff">3,654.0</td>
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<td colspan="4" bgcolor="#eeeeee">Includes deaths on both sides (Union and Confederate).</td>
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<td bgcolor="#ffffff">Battle of Gettysburg (Civil)</td>
<td bgcolor="#ffffff">7,863</td>
<td bgcolor="#ffffff">3 days</td>
<td bgcolor="#ffffff">2,621.0</td>
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<td colspan="4" bgcolor="#eeeeee">Includes deaths on both sides (Union and Confederate).</td>
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<td bgcolor="#ffffff">San Juan Hill (Span-Am)</td>
<td bgcolor="#ffffff">124</td>
<td bgcolor="#ffffff">1 day</td>
<td bgcolor="#ffffff">124.0</td>
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<td colspan="4" bgcolor="#eeeeee">Estimated death count (US only, obviously).</td>
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<td bgcolor="#ffffff">Battle of Belleau Wood (WW1)</td>
<td bgcolor="#ffffff">1,811</td>
<td bgcolor="#ffffff">26 days</td>
<td bgcolor="#ffffff">69.7</td>
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<td colspan="4" bgcolor="#eeeeee">One of the most important battles in US Marine Corps lore, spawned the (reputed) quotes of &#8220;Retreat? Hell, we just got here!&#8221; and &#8220;Come on, you sons of bitches, you want to live forever?&#8221;. It&#8217;s also cited as the source of the nickname &#8220;devil dogs&#8221; often applied to US Marines (as German soldiers purportedly began to refer to the marines as <em>Teufelhunde</em>).</td>
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<td bgcolor="#ffffff">Battle of Midway (WW2)</td>
<td bgcolor="#ffffff">307</td>
<td bgcolor="#ffffff">4 days</td>
<td bgcolor="#ffffff">76.8</td>
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<td colspan="4" bgcolor="#eeeeee">Includes only US deaths.</td>
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<td bgcolor="#ffffff">Battle of Guadalcanal (WW2)</td>
<td bgcolor="#ffffff">7,099</td>
<td bgcolor="#ffffff">187 days</td>
<td bgcolor="#ffffff">38.0</td>
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<td colspan="4" bgcolor="#eeeeee">Includes all Allied deaths and nearly all of those were US. The majority of deaths were inflicted on naval personnel (4,911) &#8212; the US didn&#8217;t have the most universally brilliant admirals at the onset of WW2.</td>
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<td bgcolor="#ffffff">Battle of Tarawa (WW2)</td>
<td bgcolor="#ffffff">990</td>
<td bgcolor="#ffffff">4 days</td>
<td bgcolor="#ffffff">247.5</td>
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<td colspan="4" bgcolor="#eeeeee">Back when people had still heard of &#8220;Tarawa&#8221;, it was known as &#8220;Bloody Tarawa&#8221;. There was an Academy Award-winning short made about it, <a href="http://www.archive.org/details/WiththeMarinesatTarawa">With the Marines at Tarawa</a>.</td>
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<td bgcolor="#ffffff">Invasion of Normandy (WW2)</td>
<td bgcolor="#ffffff">1,465</td>
<td bgcolor="#ffffff">40 days</td>
<td bgcolor="#ffffff">36.6</td>
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<td colspan="4" bgcolor="#eeeeee">(Commonly referred to as &#8220;D-Day&#8221;, despite the fact that D-Day is a generic term. Oh well.) Deaths for all Allied combatants was around 2,700 (includes British and Canadians).As the Normandy Invasion wasn&#8217;t exactly a discreet action, I&#8217;m estimating the end to have been, as Wikipedia suggests, &#8220;mid-July&#8221; (I used July 15, 1944).</td>
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<td bgcolor="#ffffff">Battle of Saipan (WW2)</td>
<td bgcolor="#ffffff">2,949</td>
<td bgcolor="#ffffff">25 days</td>
<td bgcolor="#ffffff">118.0</td>
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<td colspan="4" bgcolor="#eeeeee">Includes only US killed-in-action (not missing).</td>
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<td bgcolor="#ffffff">Battle of Peleliu (WW2)</td>
<td bgcolor="#ffffff">2,336</td>
<td bgcolor="#ffffff">72 days</td>
<td bgcolor="#ffffff">86.5</td>
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<td colspan="4" bgcolor="#eeeeee">Note to military planners: don&#8217;t give an invasion a name like &#8220;Operation Stalemate&#8221; again.</td>
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<td bgcolor="#ffffff">Battle of the Bulge (WW2)</td>
<td bgcolor="#ffffff">19,276</td>
<td bgcolor="#ffffff">41 days</td>
<td bgcolor="#ffffff">470.1</td>
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<td colspan="4" bgcolor="#eeeeee">Includes only US deaths.</td>
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<td bgcolor="#ffffff">Battle of Iwo Jima (WW2)</td>
<td bgcolor="#ffffff">6,821</td>
<td bgcolor="#ffffff">35 days</td>
<td bgcolor="#ffffff">194.9</td>
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<td colspan="4" bgcolor="#eeeeee">Most iconic battle of the Pacific; but it was neither the most &#8220;intense&#8221; in terms of death rate (Tarawa), nor in terms of number of deaths (Okinawa). Still, 1.7x the number of deaths in Iraq in less than 1/50th the time.</td>
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<td bgcolor="#ffffff">Battle of Okinawa (WW2)</td>
<td bgcolor="#ffffff">12,513</td>
<td bgcolor="#ffffff">98 days</td>
<td bgcolor="#ffffff">127.7</td>
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<td colspan="4" bgcolor="#eeeeee">Deaths figure is actually &#8220;dead or missing&#8221; and includes all Allied combatants (although there were few non-American combatants involved among Allied forces), but no civilians.</td>
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<td bgcolor="#ffffff">Korean War</td>
<td bgcolor="#ffffff">36,516</td>
<td bgcolor="#ffffff">1,128 days</td>
<td bgcolor="#ffffff">32.4</td>
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<td colspan="4" bgcolor="#eeeeee">Includes US combatants killed-in-action only. Do people even remember that there *was* a Korean war?</td>
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<td bgcolor="#ffffff">Vietnam War</td>
<td bgcolor="#ffffff">58,209</td>
<td bgcolor="#ffffff">3,353 days</td>
<td bgcolor="#ffffff">17.4</td>
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<tr>
<td colspan="4" bgcolor="#eeeeee">Includes only US killed-in-action (not missing).</td>
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<td colspan="5"></td>
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<td bgcolor="#ffffff">Gulf War I</td>
<td bgcolor="#ffffff">358</td>
<td bgcolor="#ffffff">210 days</td>
<td bgcolor="#ffffff">1.7</td>
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<tr>
<td colspan="4" bgcolor="#eeeeee">Deaths include only killed-in-action and are for all allied combatants.</td>
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<td bgcolor="#ffffff">Iraq War &amp; Occupation</td>
<td bgcolor="#ffffff">3,973</td>
<td bgcolor="#ffffff">1,806 days</td>
<td bgcolor="#ffffff">2.2</td>
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<td colspan="4" bgcolor="#eeeeee">Duration and deaths are as of March 1, 2008 and include only US military deaths. &#8220;Start Date&#8221; for Iraq war considered to be March 20, 2003. If this is the current generation&#8217;s Vietnam, then the current generation is getting off very, very easily.</td>
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<p>Also worth considering is that the US was a much smaller country (population-wise) in these earlier conflicts. The US population in 1940 was 132 million (less than half of today&#8217;s estimated population of 303 million). The US population in 1860 (just prior to the Civil War) was only 31 million.</p>
<p>If you need a finer point put on this: the number of American troops killed in our (almost) five-year adventure in Iraq is about the same as the number of American troops who died in the Battle of Antietam (Sharpsburg) IN ONE DAY. Given that today&#8217;s US population is just over 9x that of the 1860 population, the current Iraq conflict has about 1/15,000th the relative death intensity of the Battle of Antietam (= 1 / ((3654.0 deaths/day / 2.2 deaths/day ) * (303.1 million population / 33.4 million population)) = 1/15,072 ). Or, other way around, the Battle of Antietam was relatively 15,000 times as bad as the current Iraq war (in terms of death rate and impact on the relative population).</p>
<p>If we wanted to go deeper, I could figure out what the death rate for civilians between 18 and 25 has been during the years of the Iraq war and discount the rate accordingly &#8212; but I&#8217;d also have to do that for the other battles and wars and I&#8217;ve spent enough of my Saturday on this already.</p>
<p>My point: I think the media should be required to report all of the above any time they report the number of deaths in the Iraq War+Occupation to date. Even better, news consumers should DEMAND this (not that they ever would). But perspective should matter. The rational reason Iraq is a crappy situation has more to do with how we&#8217;re destroying our own economy for the sake of making everyone in the world hate us than it does with the ferocity of the fighting and dying. As war deaths go, Iraq&#8217;s been relatively gentle. Our country should be making its foreign policy decisions based on clear objectives, rational analysis, and items of statistical significance, not on the media&#8217;s unwillingness to disseminate reason.</p>
<p>Thanks,</p>
<p>bkd</p>
<p>(Virtually all figures are from Wikipedia and are sourced there.)</p>
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		<title>Viva Estonia</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jun 2007 23:43:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>bdunn02</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oh, granted, it&#8217;s a Radio]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, granted, it&#8217;s a Radio Free Europe interview with a US-friendly politician, but still, I loved the frankness and candor of Estonian president Toomas Hendrik <a href="http://www.rferl.org/featuresarticle/2007/06/a45ca56a-10ad-4431-9e68-35cd307ed40b.html">here</a>.</p>
<p>(I was also intrigued that one of the interviewers was named &#8220;Chalupa&#8221;.)</p>
<p>E.g.: &#8220;<span id="ContentLabel">Russian relations with Ukraine and Georgia were fine until they had democratic revolutions.&#8221; Plus he references Orwell, which can only be viewed as a positive.</span></p>
<p>I need to come out with my Top 5 Most Evil World Leaders list soon. Maybe next week&#8230;</p>
<p>bkd</p>
<p>Also, while I&#8217;m in a Vlad-bashing mood, I also enjoyed <a href="http://www.rferl.org/featuresarticle/2007/06/959a75a0-6155-409f-982e-164cbedcb814.html">Garry Kasparov&#8217;s comments</a> on Putin, e.g., &#8220;<span id="ContentLabel">When I hear stories about a new Cold War, I&#8217;m laughing because the Cold War was always based on ideas. Putin&#8217;s only idea is: &#8216;Let&#8217;s steal together.&#8217;&#8221; Classic.</span></p>
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		<title>Cabbies Say the Darnedest Things</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 20 May 2007 22:15:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>bkdunn</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Cab driver from DFW to]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cab driver from DFW to the W Victory was Palestinian: &#8220;What are they fighting for? What do they want their own country for? We already have 22 Arab countries and they all suck. What do we want a 23rd for?&#8221; Of course, he also mentioned that the only people greedier than the &#8220;yellow man&#8221; were the Jews, whom he described as &#8220;at least as crazy as we are&#8221;.</p>
<p>I should&#8217;ve pushed him to give me his take on Mormons.</p>
<p>bkd</p>
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