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		<title>National Air and Space Museum Steven F. Udvar-Hazy Center</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jul 2010 04:58:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The best thing about the]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The best thing about the Udvar-Hazy Center and the one thing that they do that no other flight museum has yet accomplished is that they give the airplanes enough room and enough light and provide visitors multiple viewing angles. There, I said it.</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t go to an aerospace museum without trying to rank it within the pantheon of aerospace museums and there were some times walking through Udvar-Hazy that I was thinking <em>yeah, this is the best flight museum there is </em>and that was based in large part on how easy they make it to see and photograph the planes. The USAF Museum in Dayton, for instance, is really dark so in order to take photos without a tripod, you have to do flash-fill and be happy with taking a photo of one small part of the plane. And in most flight museums, including Dayton, it seems like they looked at the arrangement of displays as a Tetris variant. Udvar-Hazy gives the planes their due space. Well, except for in the commercial airplanes area, but those planes are kind of big, so I suppose it makes sense.</p>
<p>And if you could combine the National Air and Space Museum component on the mall in DC with the Udvar-Hazy Center, you definitely <em>would</em> have the greatest flight museum in the world. But they&#8217;re too far away, so you can&#8217;t. It&#8217;s like saying if you combined Seattle and Portland, you&#8217;d have the second largest city on the west coast. True but moot. Like most of life.</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><a rel="attachment wp-att-1506" href="http://www.bkdunn.com/blog/2010/07/national-air-and-space-museum-steven-f-udvar-hazy-center/udvar-hazy-space-shuttle/"><img class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-1506" title="udvar-hazy-space-shuttle" src="http://www.bkdunn.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/udvar-hazy-space-shuttle-334x500.jpg" alt="" width="334" height="500" /></a><em>Enterprise, the real fake space shuttle.</em></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><em><a rel="attachment wp-att-1508" href="http://www.bkdunn.com/blog/2010/07/national-air-and-space-museum-steven-f-udvar-hazy-center/udvar-hazy-concorde/"><img class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-1508" title="udvar-hazy-concorde" src="http://www.bkdunn.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/udvar-hazy-concorde-500x334.jpg" alt="" width="500" height="334" /></a>The Concorde sees you.</em></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><em><a rel="attachment wp-att-1509" href="http://www.bkdunn.com/blog/2010/07/national-air-and-space-museum-steven-f-udvar-hazy-center/udvar-hazy-enola-gay/"><img class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-1509" title="udvar-hazy-enola-gay" src="http://www.bkdunn.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/udvar-hazy-enola-gay-500x334.jpg" alt="" width="500" height="334" /></a>A B-29.</em></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><em><a rel="attachment wp-att-1510" href="http://www.bkdunn.com/blog/2010/07/national-air-and-space-museum-steven-f-udvar-hazy-center/udvar-hazy-sun-warning/"><img class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-1510" title="udvar-hazy-sun-warning" src="http://www.bkdunn.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/udvar-hazy-sun-warning-500x333.jpg" alt="" width="500" height="333" /></a>Wouldn&#8217;t dream of it.</em></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><em><a rel="attachment wp-att-1511" href="http://www.bkdunn.com/blog/2010/07/national-air-and-space-museum-steven-f-udvar-hazy-center/udvar-hazy-satellites/"><img class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-1511" title="udvar-hazy-satellites" src="http://www.bkdunn.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/udvar-hazy-satellites-500x334.jpg" alt="" width="500" height="334" /></a>A galaxy of satellites. Maybe just a cluster.</em></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><em><a rel="attachment wp-att-1513" href="http://www.bkdunn.com/blog/2010/07/national-air-and-space-museum-steven-f-udvar-hazy-center/udvar-hazy-me-163/"><img class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-1513" title="udvar-hazy-me-163" src="http://www.bkdunn.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/udvar-hazy-me-163-500x334.jpg" alt="" width="500" height="334" /></a>It couldn&#8217;t fly very fast because the propeller was so small.</em></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><em><a rel="attachment wp-att-1512" href="http://www.bkdunn.com/blog/2010/07/national-air-and-space-museum-steven-f-udvar-hazy-center/udvar-hazy-corsair/"><img class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-1512" title="udvar-hazy-corsair" src="http://www.bkdunn.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/udvar-hazy-corsair-500x333.jpg" alt="" width="500" height="333" /></a>Hey look, an airplane!</em></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><em><a rel="attachment wp-att-1507" href="http://www.bkdunn.com/blog/2010/07/national-air-and-space-museum-steven-f-udvar-hazy-center/udvar-hazy-x-35/"><img class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-1507" title="udvar-hazy-x-35" src="http://www.bkdunn.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/udvar-hazy-x-35-500x334.jpg" alt="" width="500" height="334" /></a>The F-22 is a better value. (This is an X-35.)</em></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><em><a rel="attachment wp-att-1514" href="http://www.bkdunn.com/blog/2010/07/national-air-and-space-museum-steven-f-udvar-hazy-center/udvar-hazy-ju-52/"><img class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-1514" title="udvar-hazy-ju-52" src="http://www.bkdunn.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/udvar-hazy-ju-52-500x334.jpg" alt="" width="500" height="334" /></a>A Ju-52.</em></p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><em><a rel="attachment wp-att-1515" href="http://www.bkdunn.com/blog/2010/07/national-air-and-space-museum-steven-f-udvar-hazy-center/udvar-hazy-commercial-wing/"><img class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-1515" title="udvar-hazy-commercial-wing" src="http://www.bkdunn.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/udvar-hazy-commercial-wing-500x334.jpg" alt="" width="500" height="334" /></a>The well-stocked commercial wing.</em></p>
<p style="text-align: left;">Which leaves only bullet points:</p>
<ul>
<li>I think the Top Tier of aerospace museums is this one, the one on the mall, the USAF, and probably Pima/AMARG.</li>
<li>It&#8217;s interesting how they don&#8217;t tell many stories in this museum &#8212; they mostly let the plane speak for itself. There are no big panels explaining the Wright Bros. or anything like that &#8212; I think most of that is on the mall.</li>
<li>Without a doubt the least impressive gift shop of any top-flite aerospace museum.</li>
<li>Walking through the museum, you start feeling like there are planes that should be there but aren&#8217;t, and then you remember that the other half of the collection is an hour away, which is sort of comforting in that you know that they know that this isn&#8217;t a complete something.</li>
<li>They have a bunch of &#8220;last one like this that still exists&#8221; planes there, including some bizarre-awesome German WWII examples, like the late-war gigantic fighter plane with fore and aft props. Too bad those airplanes are evil.</li>
<li>For some reason the only planes missing their wings were German WWII planes. There was no explanation.</li>
<li>They put plexi-glass up around the <em>Enola Gay </em>so no one could throw stuff at it. Apparently that&#8217;s happened before.</li>
<li>Hooray for flight.</li>
</ul>
<p>So yeah. ICYDK, the Udvar-Hazy Center is located right by Dulles Airport in Virginia. The Smithsonian (or whoever) built it in order to house planes that wouldn&#8217;t fit in the regular museum on the mall. They have elevated walkways along parts of the perimeter that afford the top-down views. The museum is free, but parking is $15. The only food inside is McDonalds. There&#8217;s very little to buy in the gift shop.</p>
<p>bkd</p>
<p>PS, If you combined Seattle and Portland, it would still only be the third largest city on the west coast.</p>
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		<title>The Evergreen Air and Space Museum</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jan 2010 01:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>bkdunn</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Evergreen Air and Space Museum is "actually" two museums, meaning that it's housed in two buildings (three if you count the IMAX theater) and they charge admission separately unless you buy admission for both together. Pretty museum, solid collection of stuff, and they have the Spruce Goose.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is my favorite photo from there, but it&#8217;s not the most important thing in their collection or anything:</p>
<div id="attachment_526" class="wp-caption aligncenter" style="width: 510px"><a rel="attachment wp-att-526" href="http://www.bkdunn.com/blog/2009/12/the-evergreen-air-and-space-museum/titan-ii-missile/"><img class="size-large wp-image-526" title="titan-ii-missile" src="http://www.bkdunn.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/titan-ii-missile-500x334.jpg" alt="" width="500" height="334" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Titan II: Launcher of Gemini, Defender of the Free World</p></div>
<p>That probably begs a discussion on the meaning of the word &#8220;important&#8221; in this context and on the criteria and criteria weighting required to determine said importance. Or just: the Titan II <em>may</em> be the most important thing in the museum. It&#8217;s not the most famous thing there, though. This is:</p>
<div id="attachment_527" class="wp-caption aligncenter" style="width: 510px"><a rel="attachment wp-att-527" href="http://www.bkdunn.com/blog/2009/12/the-evergreen-air-and-space-museum/spruce-goose/"><img class="size-large wp-image-527" title="spruce-goose" src="http://www.bkdunn.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/spruce-goose-500x334.jpg" alt="spruce goose" width="500" height="334" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">The Spruce Goose: Launcher of Howard Hughes, Defender of the Inside of the Museum</p></div>
<p>Which begs a discussion on the meaning of the word &#8220;launch&#8221;. Meh: life is imperfect. BTW, the important (or merely famous?) part of that photo is the big ol&#8217; plane, not the two engines in front of it. And I&#8217;m sure the two guys in the picture are very important to their respective mothers. I tried to take a bunch of artistic shots of the plane, but they all basically look like a gigantic airplane with a bunch of other little planes around it. See above.</p>
<p>The Evergreen Air and Space Museum is &#8220;actually&#8221; two museums, meaning that it&#8217;s housed in two buildings (three if you count the IMAX theater) and they charge admission separately unless you buy admission for both together. Pretty museum, solid collection of stuff, and they have the Spruce Goose. They also have one of these:</p>
<div id="attachment_528" class="wp-caption aligncenter" style="width: 510px"><a rel="attachment wp-att-528" href="http://www.bkdunn.com/blog/2009/12/the-evergreen-air-and-space-museum/mig-29-evergreen-museum/"><img class="size-large wp-image-528" title="mig-29-evergreen-museum" src="http://www.bkdunn.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/mig-29-evergreen-museum-500x333.jpg" alt="mig-29" width="500" height="333" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">An illegally-parked MiG 29!</p></div>
<p>I dunno, I suppose the ominousness of the MiG 29 is probably lost on the current generation that didn&#8217;t grow up back before the West realized that the Soviets weren&#8217;t actually competent at stuff. But still, in its heyday, this airframe was the symbol of black-hat aeronautical engineering.</p>
<p>I also like how the ol&#8217; Herc is watching the MiG through the glass. One false move and Herc leaps through the glass and eats the MiG. (Not really. That will never happen.)</p>
<p>The museum is in McMinnville, Ore. and was sort of founded and is/was bankrolled by Evergreen International Aviation, which I think might do some cargo operations as well as, like, water-bombing stuff for (against) forest fires maybe. And maybe some contracting with internationally recognized clandestine service organizations &#8212; who&#8217;s to say? Wikipedia is vague in these matters. I skipped the IMAX theater. I should probably go to one again some day, but I established a precedent of not going to them during the road trip and I&#8217;d like to maintain some part of that road trip magic for a while longer, thank you.</p>
<p>Bullet-point list:</p>
<ul>
<li>They have a missile launch simulator which takes five-plus minutes. The Titan II missile behind you does not launch when the countdown gets to zero.</li>
<li>McMinnville is not that easy to get to considering how reasonably close to Portland and Salem it is.</li>
<li>Don&#8217;t remember much else. Been a couple weeks.</li>
</ul>
<p>Here&#8217;s an interior shot of a Ford Tri-Motor for some reason:</p>
<div id="attachment_529" class="wp-caption aligncenter" style="width: 510px"><a rel="attachment wp-att-529" href="http://www.bkdunn.com/blog/2009/12/the-evergreen-air-and-space-museum/ford-trimotor-interior/"><img class="size-large wp-image-529" title="ford-trimotor-interior" src="http://www.bkdunn.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/ford-trimotor-interior-500x333.jpg" alt="Ford Tri-Motor interior." width="500" height="333" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">An interior shot of a Ford Tri-Motor.</p></div>
<p>They also had one of these at the museum:</p>
<div id="attachment_530" class="wp-caption aligncenter" style="width: 344px"><a rel="attachment wp-att-530" href="http://www.bkdunn.com/blog/2009/12/the-evergreen-air-and-space-museum/p-40-warhawk-flying-tigers/"><img class="size-large wp-image-530" title="p-40-warhawk-flying-tigers" src="http://www.bkdunn.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/p-40-warhawk-flying-tigers-334x500.jpg" alt="p-40 warhawk in Flying Tigers livery." width="334" height="500" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">A P-40 Warhawk with Fighting Tigers livery and a handy drip-pan (which may have been made in China).</p></div>
<p>P-40s mostly flew for the British and Soviets. But the drip pan adds a lot to the composition. IMHO.</p>
<p>Out.</p>
<p>bkd</p>
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		<title>Planes of Fame Air Show 2009: Old Planes in the 909</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2009 10:44:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>bkdunn</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Went to the Planes of]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Went to the Planes of Fame Air Show in Chino on Saturday. This was the best photo I got:</p>
<p style="text-align: center;">
<div id="attachment_413" class="wp-caption aligncenter" style="width: 460px"><img class="size-full wp-image-413" title="b-24_liberator_chino" src="http://www.bkdunn.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/b-24_liberator_chino-070.jpg" alt="A B-24 Liberator comes in for a low pass while some guys work on an F6F Hellcat that claims to have shot down 29 Japanese planes, despite being in something called the &quot;Commemorative Air Force&quot;." width="450" height="300" /><p class="wp-caption-text">A (strike)B-24 Liberator(/strike) B-25 Mitchell comes in for a low pass while some guys work on an F6F Hellcat that claims to have shot down 29 Japanese planes despite being part of something called the &quot;Commemorative Air Force&quot;.</p></div>
<p style="text-align: left;">Took 300 photos, most of which were awful. I blame the haze. And the number of people that were there. And my unwillingness to go stand in front of all the people for an unobstructed view. Plus, really, what kind of composition actually works for planes flying alone against a hazy-blue sky? Nosuch.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">Air Show was at the Chino Airport, which is also the home to the &#8220;<a href="http://www.bkdunn.com/blog/?p=249">Planes of Fame Museum</a>&#8221; I visited a while back. Was hot out there &#8212; 90 maybe. Got good and burned on my neck, most importantly.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">The show was mostly old planes, mostly from World War II, although there was a brief Korea showcase with an F-86 and a MiG 15 chasing each other around. Also had an A-10 Thunderbolt, which is usually pretty fun to watch (IMHO, slow flying trumps everything at an air show), and a C-17, which isn&#8217;t necessarily fun to watch. And the tri-tip barbecue sandwich was way better than I expected I&#8217;d find at an air show.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">Here&#8217;s a photo of F8F Bearcats flying in formation, in case you care:</p>
<p style="text-align: center;">
<div id="attachment_414" class="wp-caption aligncenter" style="width: 460px"><img class="size-full wp-image-414" title="f8f_bearcats_chino_formation" src="http://www.bkdunn.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/f8f-bearcat-chino-071.jpg" alt="Three aerobatic F8F Bearcats fly in formation, shaming one of their less well-heeled bretheren into folding up its wings." width="450" height="300" /><p class="wp-caption-text">Three aerobatic F8F Bearcats fly in formation, shaming one of their less well-heeled bretheren into folding up its wings.</p></div>
<p style="text-align: left;">So I really didn&#8217;t rock it on the photography. Many life-lessons were learned, however. And the old planes looked and sounded cool.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">bkd</p>
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		<title>Visit to the Chino Air Museum (Planes of Fame)</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 05:10:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[First off: best experience on]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First off: best experience on the 91 ever. Ever. It was like the 909 had decided to give up driving completely on Sunday, much to the delight of the 949ers venturing inland. If the 91 were like that all the time, I&#8217;d start flying out of Ontario. Honest: *Ontario*.</p>
<p>Photos, then brief discussion.</p>
<p align="center"><img src="http://www.bkdunn.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/img_p38.jpg" alt="p-38 lightning at the planes of fame museum in Chino, California" /></p>
<p align="center">As it turns out, P-38s are about as weird-looking in real life as they are in not-real life.</p>
<p style="text-align: center"><img src="http://www.bkdunn.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/img_me-p51.jpg" alt="bkdunn and a P-51 Mustang in Chino" /></p>
<p align="center">Me? I&#8217;m as weird-looking in real life as otherwise as well, thank you. And I&#8217;m totally blocking your view of one of the three restored P-51s they had there.</p>
<p align="center">Â <img src="http://www.bkdunn.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/img_sbd.jpg" alt="SBD Dauntless Torpedo Plane Planes of Fame Museum in Chino" /></p>
<p align="center">An SBD Dauntless torpedo plane &#8212; the most successful torpedo plane in WWII.</p>
<p align="center"><img src="http://www.bkdunn.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/img_oldplanes.jpg" alt="Chino Air Museum" /></p>
<p align="center">Seems like every air museum has its derelict plane section. I like this shot from the standpoint that it makes me feel like these poor old planes just want to out and fly again. And, yes, this is coming from the guy who thinks the movie <em>Cars</em> was kind of dumb because, well, <em>why are they cars?!</em></p>
<p align="left">It was a pretty cool museum for its several World War II-vintage airplanes. Esepcially cool for me as a self-styled connoisseur of WW2 (sort of). I think this was the first SBD Dauntless I&#8217;ve seen in the &#8212; well, not the wild. I guess this is pretty much just a zoo. But the cool thing about this museum is that it&#8217;s actually more of a restoration shop, meaning that they restore the planes back to flyability. Meaning that the P-51s, on given weekends, taxi out to the runway at Chino Airport (to which the museum is attached) and, like, fly. As do a number of these other airplanes.</p>
<p align="left">Of course the docents are imperfect. I asked one if they had an F4F in their collection.</p>
<ul>
<li>He: &#8220;no&#8221;.</li>
<li>I: &#8220;that&#8217;s too bad, I thought you guys had one &#8212; doesn&#8217;t seem like there are many of those around&#8221;.</li>
<li>He: &#8220;I think there are still plenty around.&#8221;</li>
<li>At which point I&#8217;m wondering where he&#8217;s finding all these F4Fs that seem to be invisible to one such as myself.</li>
<li>Then he: &#8220;You should come to the show next week, we got a Spitfire going up.&#8221;</li>
<li>I: &#8220;Cool.&#8221;</li>
<li>He: &#8220;And this morning, I saw our Wildcat taxiing out to the runway.&#8221;</li>
<li>I: &#8220;Uh&#8230;?&#8221;</li>
<li>He: &#8220;Sorry, I thought you were asking whether we had an F4 Phantom.&#8221;</li>
</ul>
<p>For you see, an F4F *is* a Wildcat. And it was put away in some post-flight hangar somewhere, so I didn&#8217;t get to see it. Plus I&#8217;m guessing it&#8217;s an FM-2 more than an F4F, meaning that, I guess, he was technically correct in the first place. Except that no one would (intentionally) say that his museum doesn&#8217;t have an F4F when it, in fact, has an FM-2.</p>
<p>Can&#8217;t imagine there are more than five or six flyable Wildcats left in the world.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a good 2-hour flight museum. $11 for adults, $4 kids. And apparently they randomly send one or two planes up every weekend, except for certain weekends when it&#8217;s pre-meditated.</p>
<p>l8,</p>
<p>bkd</p>
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		<title>More B-52 Photos, By Request (Plus a Couple Pics of AMARG)</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Mar 2008 20:38:30 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>bkdunn</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[And because, let&#8217;s face it,]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And because, let&#8217;s face it, I&#8217;m never actually going to get around to putting anything on Flickr.</p>
<p align="center">&nbsp;</p>
<p align="center"><img src="http://www.bkdunn.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/bomber_row.jpg" alt="Bomber Row at Pima â€” B-47 in front of three B-52s" /></p>
<p align="center"> <img src="http://www.bkdunn.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/b-52_x-plane.jpg" alt="B-52 with x-plane spar" /></p>
<p align="center"><img src="http://www.bkdunn.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/b-52_tail_shot.jpg" alt="Tail Gun on B-52 at Pima Air &amp; Space Museum at Davis-Monthan AFB" /></p>
<p align="center"><img src="http://www.bkdunn.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/b-52_nose-shot.jpg" alt="b-52 at the pima air &amp; space museum, close-up" /></p>
<p align="left"> And because the last set didn&#8217;t include any actual photos taken from the boneyard at Davis-Monthan (AMARG &#8212; Aerospace Maintenance and Regeneration Group), here are a few. The bus, as mentioned last post, made it tough to get good photos. For me.  Maybe DLF got something better.</p>
<p align="center"><img src="http://www.bkdunn.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/c-130_at_boneyard.jpg" alt="c-130s and mountains at Davis-Monthan AMARG" /></p>
<p align="left"> The above C-130s are in the &#8220;could be re-used&#8221; wing of the boneyard.</p>
<p align="center"><img src="http://www.bkdunn.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/b-1-at-amarg.jpg" alt="B-1 bomber with C-130 at Davis-Monthan boneyard" /></p>
<p align="left">There were a handful of B-1s scattered around also. And for some reason the right side of the bus didn&#8217;t seem to get the best visuals. If you ever go there, try and get a left-side window. And start trying to peel off the tint some time before it leaves the parking lot&#8230;</p>
<p align="center"> <img src="http://www.bkdunn.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/planes_at_scrap.jpg" alt="boneyard airplanes used for scrap" /></p>
<p align="left">And then these poor guys are on the cannibalization side of the street.</p>
<p align="left">But the view from Google&#8217;s satellite maps are, IMHO, the most interesting (zoom in and scroll around for best effect).</p>
<p align="center"> <iframe src="http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&amp;hl=en&amp;geocode=&amp;q=4800+s.+kolb+rd.,+Tucson,+AZ+85706&amp;sll=32.11557,-110.84112&amp;sspn=0.098286,0.135956&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;ll=32.175104,-110.836773&amp;spn=0.01228,0.016994&amp;t=h&amp;z=14&amp;output=embed&amp;s=AARTsJpPFgzp7KQpgH5uMl4uI3QWcASzDg" marginheight="0" marginwidth="0" frameborder="0" height="350" scrolling="no" width="425"></iframe><br />
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<p align="left">Enjoy. Or, &#8220;have enjoyed&#8221;, I guess.</p>
<p align="left">bkd</p>
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		<title>Pima Air and Space Museum and the Davis-Monthan Boneyard</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Mar 2008 01:55:04 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>bkdunn</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Went out to Tucson last]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Went out to Tucson last weekend ahead of some business meetings I had in Tempe on Tuesday. Primary purpose: visit the AMARG, the Davis-Monthan Air Force Base airplane boneyard (I think &#8220;boneyard&#8221; sounds less ominous than &#8220;graveyard&#8221;, although I suppose maybe it shouldn&#8217;t). Tours of the boneyard are facilitated by the <a href="http://www.pimaair.org/">Pima Air and Space Museum</a>, located around the corner from the base. The museum and the boneyard were both cool.</p>
<p style="text-align: center"><img src="http://www.bkdunn.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/me_b52.jpg" alt="b-52 at the pima air &amp; space museum in tucson" /></p>
<p> The B-52 above was one that dropped several of the x-planes &#8212; you can see the spar on the right wing where the planes were carried pre-drop.</p>
<p align="center"><img src="http://www.bkdunn.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/prop_a10_500.jpg" alt="A-10 flying at Davis-Monthan AFB" /></p>
<p align="left"> Above is an A-10 Warthog banking hard over the top of Davis-Monthan AFB as seen between the prop blades of the DC-6 that used to be John F. Kennedy&#8217;s Air Force One.</p>
<p style="text-align: center"><img src="http://www.bkdunn.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/planeyard.jpg" alt="c-133b cargomaster and the pima air &amp; space museum yard" /></p>
<p align="left">Above is a Douglas C-133B and the view from the far end of the museum&#8217;s 75 acres of airplanes.</p>
<p align="left">Highlights:</p>
<ul>
<li>75 acres of airplanes is a lot of airplanes.</li>
<li>There aren&#8217;t many ropes keeping you away from the aircraft. If you want to get down on your belly and see what the underside of a B-52 looks like, you&#8217;re welcome to do so.</li>
<li>Oh &#8212; right, so on the Sunday we were there, the air force base was doing practices for the spring and summer air show season, including having civil pilots get qualified to join air force pilots for &#8220;heritage flights&#8221; (in which a couple of old planes, piloted by civilians, fly in formation with a couple of current air force planes). This meant we got treated to an air show with aerobatic maneuvers from an F-22, F-15, A-10 (I&#8217;m an A-10 fan), F-4 Phantom, P-51, and P-40.</li>
<li>Actually those last three didn&#8217;t do anything aerobatic, but the first three did a lot to make up for it.</li>
<li>Like, for instance, the F-22 stopping and hovering mid-air. Pretty trippy.</li>
<li>They actually have three B-52s there &#8212; that&#8217;s an imposing-looking, ominous airframe. IMHO.</li>
<li>They also had a nice collection of WWII bombers &#8212; a B17, a B24, and a B29. Again, with full belly-based viewing privileges.</li>
<li>The docents were all pretty old and friendly.</li>
<li>They had a couple of Lockheed Constellations and a Sud Aviation Caravelle &#8212; I&#8217;d never seen either of those up close before.</li>
<li>Included pretty much every American jet fighter up through the F-15.</li>
<li>Also included a bunch of huge ol&#8217; cargo planes.</li>
<li>It&#8217;s just a lot of airplanes and a lot of access to those planes.</li>
</ul>
<p>Other notes:</p>
<ul>
<li>It&#8217;s at least a one-full-day museum. If you go see the boneyard, which we did, it&#8217;s at least a day and a half.</li>
<li>It was pretty cool seeing how different the aircraft designs have been throughout the Air Force&#8217;s history. In a world where every commercial aircraft built in the last 50 years still looks like a 707, it&#8217;s nice that *someone&#8217;s* trying.</li>
<li>You have to make reservations to take the tour of the boneyard itself. Those tours only run on weekdays.</li>
<li>You&#8217;re only allowed to see the boneyard from the tour bus.</li>
<li>It&#8217;s kind of hard to get good pictures through the windows of the bus &#8212; all the photos above were taken at the museum.</li>
<li>It was weird to see so many recent airframes among the retirees at the boneyard (including B-1 bombers). Also strange that we&#8217;re still building new C-130s when there are apparently hundreds that have already been retired. I can only hope that someone&#8217;s done a cost-benefit analysis on some of this stuff.</li>
</ul>
<p>Anyway: cool trip. Many planes. Nice weather. Recommended.</p>
<p>bkd</p>
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